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(His honours line says 955, we'll go with 955.)
 
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Please take this opportunity to directly cite whatever policy you think is being violated, Asmodron. I will take the opportunity to once again cite the disclaimer listed below every single post on the AchaeaWiki: "Please note that all contributions to AchaeaWiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here." I also direct you to the [[AchaeaWiki:Contributing Guidelines]] where you will find no protections given for "not being able to delete things without the express approval of the administration". The administration provides LIMITED oversight to "protected" pages, which neither of these are. And finally, I remind you that the power you listed for Imyrr is WRONG. Not debatable, WRONG. So beyond all powers being something that should be left to be discussed and discovered in-game given their inherently secret nature, your addition was factually incorrect. --[[Eoka]], 12:57, 05 June 2024,  (GMT)
The '''Staff of Nicator''' is a legendary relic that was first gifted to [[Nicator]], founder of the [[Seleucarian Empire]], by [[Sarapis|the Logos]]. It was later wielded by [[Catarin deSangre]] in the [[Wars of Succession]]. Since then, the Staff has served as the prize awarded to the champion of each semicentennial celebration of the Empire's fall.


Physically, the Staff spans a length of about six feet and is carved from the finest golden wood. The head is adorned by a distinctly unique gemstone, replete with myriad facets, bringing the weight of the staff to five pounds. The abilities granted by the Staff of Nicator are ever-changing and vary according to the person who wields it at any given time. It is said that these powers work by magnifying the extant qualities of the Staff's wielder. Some examples of its powers have been noted in the annals of history, but for modern bearers, such reports are rumour and hearsay at best. Even the bearers do not always discover the powers they have been granted, and, on this topic, the Garden remains pointedly silent.


As the majority of this has already been addressed in the Lucretian Athenaeum discussion, i'll move on to the other points.
==Historical Bearers of the Staff==
{| style="width:550px; height:200px" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=20px  align="center" | '''#'''
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=160px align="center" | '''Name'''
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=80px align="center" | '''Received'''
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=400px align="center" | '''Powers granted'''
|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 1
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Nicator]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 800 BF
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | Inspiration of loyalty in followers, increase in the power of entire troops, the power to heal large numbers of people
|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 2
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Catarin deSangre]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Wars of Succession|400 BF]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | Teleportation to anyone of royal blood, opening army-sized [[wormholes]], healing major wounds upon oneself, and a magical weapon against the [[Tsol'teth]]
|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 3
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Parni deSangre]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 0 BF
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | Immediate obliteration of enemies, summoning of monsters, immolation of itself and its bearer
|
|}


I believed it would enrich the Staff powers page to list the powers previous holders have had, rather than keep it as "unknown". The Staff of Nicator is one of the most important artifacts in Achaea's history and at the centre of much of it. The usual 'cool' factor about it was the powers one would gain while wielding the staff, from historical NPCs to actual players. I thought it would make for an interesting additional to Achaea's lore to list the powers. The powers of Staff holders are often discussed in the game and become rather universal. It is how Farrah received her moniker of "Undying Farrah" at the time. If Imyrr's power was wrong, then that's fine, we can leave it blank. I have no real horse in this one, I simply thought it would enrich the page as well I didnt see it breaking any policy, thus the deletion seemed rather extreme. -- [[Asmodron]], {{CURRENTTIME}}, 05 June 2024.


Imyrr beat us to the punch, and I actually think the table split to differentiate between modern player bearers and Seleucar bearers is a good one. I can't agree that staff powers should be listed for players. The more we add to the Wiki, the less people have to go in-game to learn. There should be a balance between accuracy and breadth, and minimalism/vagueness, which is both my personal opinion and the stated guidelines/purpose of the Wiki. Additionally, each Staff has multiple unique powers, not just the big ones you listed, and there's also no way of verifying that the correct power has been added without the Staff Holder to confirm as the Garden NEVER confirms nor denies powers past or present. A player has no way of figuring out Staff Powers without going and talking to people, unlike with something like auctions where there are news posts and syntax to check winners independently. If there is something cool that you want to preserve like a moniker, that can and should be preserved in-game in some fashion rather than here. --[[Eoka]], 22:41, 05 June 2024 (GMT)
==Modern Bearers of the Staff==
{| style="width:550px; height:200px" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=20px  align="center" | '''#'''
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=160px align="center" | '''Name'''
| bgcolor=#cccccc width=80px align="center" | '''Received'''
|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 1
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Isildur]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 200|200 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 2
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Shakti Devi]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 300|300 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 3
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Roncli|Roncli Op'Shae]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 350|350 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 4
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Reiye|Reiye Wildfang]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 400|400 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 5
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Jaizsur|Jaizsur Ta'sa]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 450|450 AF]]
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| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 6
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Rangor|Rangor Corten]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 500|500 AF]]
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| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 7
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Penwize|Penwize Baker]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 550|550 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 8
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Sothantos|Sothantos de l'Evanoir]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 600|600 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 9
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Jhui|Jhui Ta'sa]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 650|650 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 10
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Jarrod|Jarrod Dracrotalus]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 700|700 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 11
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Tesha|Tesha al Ashtad]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 750|750 AF]]
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|-
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | 12
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Farrah|Farrah Roualt]]
| bgcolor=#CCFFCC | [[Year 802|802 AF]]*
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 13
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Crixos|Crixos Nithilar]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 852|852 AF]]*
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 14
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Imyrr|Imyrr Rousseau]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 902|902 AF]]*
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|-
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | 15
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Veldrin|Veldrin Crescent]]
| bgcolor=#DDEEFF | [[Year 955|955 AF]]**
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|}
 
<pre>*  The 800 AF Championship games were delayed due to the Third Black Wave.
** The 955 AF games were delayed from 952.</pre>
 
[[Category:Relics]]

Latest revision as of 18:07, 29 September 2024

The Staff of Nicator is a legendary relic that was first gifted to Nicator, founder of the Seleucarian Empire, by the Logos. It was later wielded by Catarin deSangre in the Wars of Succession. Since then, the Staff has served as the prize awarded to the champion of each semicentennial celebration of the Empire's fall.

Physically, the Staff spans a length of about six feet and is carved from the finest golden wood. The head is adorned by a distinctly unique gemstone, replete with myriad facets, bringing the weight of the staff to five pounds. The abilities granted by the Staff of Nicator are ever-changing and vary according to the person who wields it at any given time. It is said that these powers work by magnifying the extant qualities of the Staff's wielder. Some examples of its powers have been noted in the annals of history, but for modern bearers, such reports are rumour and hearsay at best. Even the bearers do not always discover the powers they have been granted, and, on this topic, the Garden remains pointedly silent.

Historical Bearers of the Staff

# Name Received Powers granted
1 Nicator 800 BF Inspiration of loyalty in followers, increase in the power of entire troops, the power to heal large numbers of people
2 Catarin deSangre 400 BF Teleportation to anyone of royal blood, opening army-sized wormholes, healing major wounds upon oneself, and a magical weapon against the Tsol'teth
3 Parni deSangre 0 BF Immediate obliteration of enemies, summoning of monsters, immolation of itself and its bearer


Modern Bearers of the Staff

# Name Received
1 Isildur 200 AF
2 Shakti Devi 300 AF
3 Roncli Op'Shae 350 AF
4 Reiye Wildfang 400 AF
5 Jaizsur Ta'sa 450 AF
6 Rangor Corten 500 AF
7 Penwize Baker 550 AF
8 Sothantos de l'Evanoir 600 AF
9 Jhui Ta'sa 650 AF
10 Jarrod Dracrotalus 700 AF
11 Tesha al Ashtad 750 AF
12 Farrah Roualt 802 AF*
13 Crixos Nithilar 852 AF*
14 Imyrr Rousseau 902 AF*
15 Veldrin Crescent 955 AF** 
*  The 800 AF Championship games were delayed due to the Third Black Wave.
** The 955 AF games were delayed from 952.
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