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I fail to see why both the Tavern in the Port and Jambiya have the same wares listed, when none of the other bars/bartender pages that I see do this. Jambiya doesn't appear to sell anything herself (that is, by asking her), you simply look at the tavern wares. Soludra 02:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

It was moved before we could agree on exactly what was happening with the Tavern in the Port article. Personally, I agree with you, but the issue (I think) was that unless a tavern or a bar had a formal name, there should not be an article for it. Instead, the shop wares would be listed in the shop proprietor's article (example: Yuli). This is because we decided we did not want articles called "A warmly lit tavern." or whatnot. I don't particularly like that policy, but that's what we have for now. (I'd prefer listing wares with the denizen only if the denizen actually sells the items, otherwise it gets confusing/misleading. Also, a tavern/bar with no formal name is still a tavern/bar and should be included in our tavern/bar category in order for our wiki to be comprehensive/complete. The lack of a proper noun should not be sufficient means for exclusion from that category.) Asara 03:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. "Tavern at the Port" seems like a valid tavern name, noting the capital P, whereas "A warmly lit tavern" obviously isn't. Maybe we should have an Unnamed taverns page which lists those kinds of taverns and their wares. Soludra 01:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for a new policy regarding this, but should we or should we not be naming articles room titles like that? I'm not sure how else to categorize them properly except perhaps to list unnamed taverns by proprietor. Asara 20:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Heh.. we could try getting the Denizen to name the establishment by bothering them enough. Or we could just name it after the bartender and go with Jambiya's Bar or something. Corvax 17:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Getting them to name the establishments might be worth pursuing if we can get a count/give them a list. If there are too many of them, though, it may not be feasible. If anyone can help me gather a starting list, then can we get going somewhere. Another issue with this I see is the added step of determining what is a bar/tavern and what is not (e.g. O'seru's hut). Anyone, please be sure to voice other doubts or concerns also, in case I'm missing something. Asara 14:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


"name of brief_desc" - proprietor (location)

"?" - O'seru (Aran'riod)

"?" - Yuli (Ka'doloki)

In other news, I've pulled Tavern in the Port out of pending deletion for now and will remove the wares from Jambiya. Asara 17:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)