Category talk:Oceans and Seas

A general question, largely for Delphinus who is the current Geography master: if a Sea is a smaller region of an Ocean, is it exclusive to one ocean? For example, there are mentions of Lemnian Sea being part of Notic and Eusian oceans. I realize it represents the border between them, but for consistency, should there be one single, proper designation? Gnaash 17:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The Lemnian Sea seems to be an area of the sea all on its own. For example, sailing northward, locale in ship info will show Notic Ocean, and past a certain latitude, it'll show Lemnian Sea, then some while later, The Eusian Sea. Continuing northeastish, you then get The Riparium Reaches of the Eusian Ocean. I'm going to guess at going by the font sizes on that massive map of his. --Kunama 14:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Code-wise, all named areas are their own tangible area, which can be viewed via SHIP INFO (like using SURVEY) and are thus mutually exclusive. Lore-wise, this is not the case. Everything exists within Achaea's four major Oceans with Seas and/or Reaches within each (and sometimes spanning more than one ocean too). Asara 15:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll bow to HELP OCEANS, which says the Lemnian is in the Eusian Ocean:

The Eusian Ocean holds or borders the Lothian Reaches (by the Bay of Dardanos),
the Cnidian Gates northeast of Tasur'ke, the eponymous Riparian Reaches, the
Scyrian Reaches eastward of the Riparian Reaches, the Lemnian Sea off the
southeast coast, and the Phocian Reaches farther eastward of there. The great
Bay of Dardanos in the north/northeast of Sapience also borders on the Eusian
Ocean.

By the by, yes, seas are contained within single oceans. As for which seas go where, that gets a bit sketchier; tritonic territories could easily cross oceanic borders, though I've gotten confirmation that the Caspiite Reaches are within the Borean Ocean. On remembering that, I guess that means I should change the Bay of Dardanos article. --Delphinus @ 15:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool. I think I get it now. Thanks everybody. Gnaash 16:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

We can say that -some- seas are contained within single oceans (because it's true!), but that relationship is not true for all seas, especially Reaches! If there are multiple designations, by all means we should include all oceans to which a sea's or Reaches's location is pertinent! Everything looks good so far, though. Asara 18:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)