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Why isn't the first sentence in past tense? The second sentence is grammatically incorrect. "harvesters found that they could no longer strip a room's plants entirely" is not a true statement (for more reasons than one, given the multiple definitions of "strip"), and "rooms" is an OOC concept. This article also doesn't mention when the rules of overharvesting were implemented, so to call it "one of the most longest-standing Achaean ordinances" (which is, incidentally, very awkward wording) makes little sense when only the end date is provided. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 01:18, 1 May 2008 (GMT) | Why isn't the first sentence in past tense? The second sentence is grammatically incorrect. "harvesters found that they could no longer strip a room's plants entirely" is not a true statement (for more reasons than one, given the multiple definitions of "strip"), and "rooms" is an OOC concept. This article also doesn't mention when the rules of overharvesting were implemented, so to call it "one of the most longest-standing Achaean ordinances" (which is, incidentally, very awkward wording) makes little sense when only the end date is provided. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 01:18, 1 May 2008 (GMT) | ||
:Ok. The first sentence isn't in past tense because the definition of overharvesting hasn't changed. I don't personally see anything wrong with the second sentence. The third sentence is true, because indeed harvesters can no longer strip a room's plants - "strip" is used correctly within its boundries of definitions, i.e. to possess/deprive/plunder. The third sentence makes sense because it is indeed one of the longest standing ordinances and you can verify this information in the realms. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 02:32, 1 May 2008 (GMT) | :Ok. The first sentence isn't in past tense because the definition of overharvesting hasn't changed. I don't personally see anything wrong with the second sentence. The third sentence is true, because indeed harvesters can no longer strip a room's plants - "strip" is used correctly within its boundries of definitions, i.e. to possess/deprive/plunder. The third sentence makes sense because it is indeed one of the longest standing ordinances and you can verify this information in the realms. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 02:32, 1 May 2008 (GMT) | ||
::Technically and firstly, the term "overharvesting" does not even exist anymore, as its definition is now (present) a physical impossibility, though this was never always the case (past). Secondly, the grammatically incorrect sentence doesn't pay heed to how lists involving commas must be structured, i.e. the same way "He likes running in circles, does cartwheels, and jumping in place." is not correct. Thirdly, plants can still be "fully harvested", and that fits with your definition of "deprive"; furthermore, "strip" (short for "stripharvesting") once referred to when harvesting to 0 completely removed a plant from a room, such that it no longer appeared in the room description (though true "stripping" was removed long ago) - usage of the word is thus confusing. Fourthly, that wasn't a good reason for why the start date/year isn't included; that's equally verifiable information in the realms. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 03:31, 1 May 2008 (GMT) | |||
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Public News 2575 - Gaia warns about overharvesting. Madelyne 20:33, 3 April 2007 (GMT)
Do we want to keep or delete this page? Note that various other articles regarding overharvesting, such as Oakstone, will need updating. --Krypton 18:12, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
- Keep the page for historical reference after updating it as relevant to modern times. Asara 20:00, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
- How do we decide what's worth keeping for its historical relevance and what we should just get rid of? Specifically, I am comparing this page to the tagged-for-deletion Dragoncurse. --Krypton 20:33, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
- I'm pretty sure Dragoncurse still exists as the Curse ability in Dragoncraft. Overharvesting no longer exists, period. Soludra 23:16, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
- I'm not sure I understand the problem. The Dragoncurse article needs to be deleted because it is no longer an independent racial ability and now exists in a skill's list. Overharvesting is a concept that played a major role in centuries of Achaea's history - stick all of it in the past tense and add an IC rationale for why this is no longer the case. Asara 00:49, 24 March 2008 (GMT)
- I'm pretty sure Dragoncurse still exists as the Curse ability in Dragoncraft. Overharvesting no longer exists, period. Soludra 23:16, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
- How do we decide what's worth keeping for its historical relevance and what we should just get rid of? Specifically, I am comparing this page to the tagged-for-deletion Dragoncurse. --Krypton 20:33, 23 March 2008 (GMT)
Well, I ended up doing this myself, so we're all set for this article. However, other related articles will still need updating. Asara 23:20, 30 April 2008 (GMT)
Why isn't the first sentence in past tense? The second sentence is grammatically incorrect. "harvesters found that they could no longer strip a room's plants entirely" is not a true statement (for more reasons than one, given the multiple definitions of "strip"), and "rooms" is an OOC concept. This article also doesn't mention when the rules of overharvesting were implemented, so to call it "one of the most longest-standing Achaean ordinances" (which is, incidentally, very awkward wording) makes little sense when only the end date is provided. --Krypton 01:18, 1 May 2008 (GMT)
- Ok. The first sentence isn't in past tense because the definition of overharvesting hasn't changed. I don't personally see anything wrong with the second sentence. The third sentence is true, because indeed harvesters can no longer strip a room's plants - "strip" is used correctly within its boundries of definitions, i.e. to possess/deprive/plunder. The third sentence makes sense because it is indeed one of the longest standing ordinances and you can verify this information in the realms. Asara 02:32, 1 May 2008 (GMT)
- Technically and firstly, the term "overharvesting" does not even exist anymore, as its definition is now (present) a physical impossibility, though this was never always the case (past). Secondly, the grammatically incorrect sentence doesn't pay heed to how lists involving commas must be structured, i.e. the same way "He likes running in circles, does cartwheels, and jumping in place." is not correct. Thirdly, plants can still be "fully harvested", and that fits with your definition of "deprive"; furthermore, "strip" (short for "stripharvesting") once referred to when harvesting to 0 completely removed a plant from a room, such that it no longer appeared in the room description (though true "stripping" was removed long ago) - usage of the word is thus confusing. Fourthly, that wasn't a good reason for why the start date/year isn't included; that's equally verifiable information in the realms. --Krypton 03:31, 1 May 2008 (GMT)