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::I had hoped to squeeze this in before a reply. If humgiis are sentient, the implication here is that nearly every player-run organisation (including Shallam) engages in slavery. And that's... really just silly, and a bad outcome overall in a lot of ways. Again - "Sentient creatures," which would fit the definition presented in HELP DENIZENS a whole lot better as well and would thus be fitting for the groups to which they belong. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 00:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | ::I had hoped to squeeze this in before a reply. If humgiis are sentient, the implication here is that nearly every player-run organisation (including Shallam) engages in slavery. And that's... really just silly, and a bad outcome overall in a lot of ways. Again - "Sentient creatures," which would fit the definition presented in HELP DENIZENS a whole lot better as well and would thus be fitting for the groups to which they belong. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 00:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Bah, edit conflict. To the section for me, that's why I think changing the definition of Denizens to be less exclusive, so it encompasses both sentient and non-sentient beings. We would have '''Creatures''' and '''Sentient creatures''' (like Delphinus suggested) as subcategories, along with the current subcategories in Category:Denizens. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 00:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | :::Bah, edit conflict. To the section for me, that's why I think changing the definition of Denizens to be less exclusive, so it encompasses both sentient and non-sentient beings. We would have '''Creatures''' and '''Sentient creatures''' (like Delphinus suggested) as subcategories, along with the current subcategories in Category:Denizens. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 00:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Let's try to get a more formal proposal up (with all previous issues addressed) and discuss it on the forums. For the moment humgii are sentient, and changing that is not so much of a lore issue as it is one for Maya, so we would have to wait until that is settled before determining potential new definitions for 'denizen'. In regards to your suggestion of humgii slavery (which you've inferred to be true on the condition that they're sentient), that, as well as your condition, sounds like something fun to tackle ICly rather than here. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 00:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |