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:::::With regards to categorisation: it isn't a big issue to me, given that there are five, six, or more islands in the chain (though only two are named), which contrasts with the paltry two Ulangi Isles. Thing is, I really want to get away from making categories into actual articles; categorising them is fine, but linking to the category as though an article seems like bad wiki form. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 13:17, 24 October 2007 (GMT)
:::::With regards to categorisation: it isn't a big issue to me, given that there are five, six, or more islands in the chain (though only two are named), which contrasts with the paltry two Ulangi Isles. Thing is, I really want to get away from making categories into actual articles; categorising them is fine, but linking to the category as though an article seems like bad wiki form. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 13:17, 24 October 2007 (GMT)
::::::Personally, I'd rather see an '''Ilyrean Tundra''' article for the combined Tundra and Caverns, and an '''Ilyrean Isles''' article for the island chain. Just makes the most sense to me: the cave is in the tundra, but the tundra isn't in the cave. The Ilyrean Isles page can reference the two names Ilyrean isles and whatever else we know about them in general. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 06:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I'd rather see an '''Ilyrean Tundra''' article for the combined Tundra and Caverns, and an '''Ilyrean Isles''' article for the island chain. Just makes the most sense to me: the cave is in the tundra, but the tundra isn't in the cave. The Ilyrean Isles page can reference the two names Ilyrean isles and whatever else we know about them in general. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 06:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Here are my main concerns.
:::::::*The caverns aren't in the Ilyrean Tundra, though. They're underneath it. You can access sea caves as well, so you could easily say the caverns are in the Borean Ocean.
:::::::*I feel as though this is too weirdly constrained by area names. The "Ulangi" area no longer exists since it surveys as the "Ulangi Isles" now, but we still know what Ulangi is and we know it's a valid article. Similarly, we don't create articles for the "Eastern Pachacacha River" or "Southern Zaphar River."
:::::::*The help file, though titled "Ilyrean Caverns," makes no reference to anything else by name save "the tundra island of Ilyrean." It has opportunities to reference the "Ilyrean Tundra" and does not within the body of the file itself. You'll notice the file name is simply "HELP ILYREAN", and every other name for the file is sketchy at best. Ilyrean seems to be the main point, downplayed as the individual areas are, and so "Ilyrean Isle" (the fullest proper name with precedence) is the best solution.
:::::::*The area names are unreliable anyway (the discrepancy between "Ilyrean Caverns" and "Ilyrean Caves," errata in help file indexing, etc) and we should err on the side of news reports.
:::::::*They just don't form full articles on their own. I prefer full-length, detail-packed articles to long lists of blurbs. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 16:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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