Category talk:Documents
Regarding the recent changes to various documents, content in those articles should be verbatim, grammar/spelling mistakes and all, no? If typo reports result in getting them corrected in realms, then it's obviously okay to go ahead with changes in the lore article. But otherwise, it is only natural to keep the original text. --Krypton 02:34, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- I am planning to embark on a MASSIVE typo report in-realms, which will cause the original and the Chronicles text to line up. It may take some time, but eventually everything should be fixed. I do, however, largely agree with your assessment! Being a voracious hater of typos both in realms and out, I plan to correct 'em all. — Kenner 02:36, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- Unless you wield some awesome, hidden influence I don't know about, I predict you'll have much difficulty trying to get typo reports on things such as that passed. Remember that most documents were penned by the hands of adventurers; thus, the Divine tend to leave the spelling/grammatical/content issues in them for the adventurers to address (namely, leaders of the organisations to which the documents apply). It took how many years for the Charter of Oakstone to resolve its issue of still referring to Demeter as an existing Goddess? --Krypton 02:47, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- I dunno, I've got typos in adventurer-tailored clothes changed before, and these documents are public or 'official' ones. I will likely file an issue to ask about this, though, if that makes you feel any better. Not just entering TYPO The spelling in Cyrene's laws is terrible!! or putting them in one by tiny one.
- Still, even if the typos aren't fixed, should we really keep them in there? Consistency is important, but the changes were quite minor. Yes, it's the principle of the thing, but ... Meh. If you/Head Chroniclers don't want it changed, though, I'll gladly revert what I did! — Kenner 03:01, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- I would actually prefer you beat those responsible for penning such atrocious works first and force them into submitting to making all the necessary corrections, but just maintaining the integrity (even if it is poorly spelled, consistency-devoid integrity) of the original documents is important and, sadly, enough. --Krypton 03:06, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- Sure thing. I'll revert the changes ASAP if (when, probably ...) I get a reply to my e-mail that says the documents can't be fixed IG. See below. — Kenner 03:19, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- I would actually prefer you beat those responsible for penning such atrocious works first and force them into submitting to making all the necessary corrections, but just maintaining the integrity (even if it is poorly spelled, consistency-devoid integrity) of the original documents is important and, sadly, enough. --Krypton 03:06, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- Unless you wield some awesome, hidden influence I don't know about, I predict you'll have much difficulty trying to get typo reports on things such as that passed. Remember that most documents were penned by the hands of adventurers; thus, the Divine tend to leave the spelling/grammatical/content issues in them for the adventurers to address (namely, leaders of the organisations to which the documents apply). It took how many years for the Charter of Oakstone to resolve its issue of still referring to Demeter as an existing Goddess? --Krypton 02:47, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
Sent letter to support
Okay, Krypton. Instead of issuing (because it turned out to be REALLY LONG) I've sent this message to Achaea's support e-mail:
Hi, Achaea Support!
As the editor Kenner on the Chronicles of Lore, I've currently been working on fixing the typographical errors in a lot of documents: the Charter of Oakstone, the Twelve Tables of Cyrene, and so on.
Copies of these documents are included in the Lore archives, and I've been going through and correcting the typos on each copy.
However. The Lore copies are taken directly from IG, which means the spelling and grammar errors in them are also reflected in Achaea itself.
It'd be excellent if these errors were fixed both IG and OOC, but (for instance) the Twelve Tables of Cyrene is actually contained within an adventurer-written journal, if I remember right. Would the gods/Celani/typo-fixers in Achaea bother working on documents written by adventurers? Works like the Twelve Tables are public and official, so I thought maybe yes; but they're written by adventurers, so maybe no.
(Or should I just try to contact the adventurer authors -- some of whom may be long dormant -- and ask them to revise their works?)
Please check out http://www.achaea.com/lore/Category_talk:Documents for some back-and-forth banter about this matter.
Thanks! And sorry I emailed rather than issuing! It'd be a VERY long issue. :)
- Player behind Kenner
I'll let the reply to that e-mail settle the matter. That sound like a good compromise? — Kenner 03:19, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- It does. Thank you, Kenner. --Krypton 03:45, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- Thank you also from me, although I would not be surprised if they decline personal involvement, as the typos and style of wording are a historical, IC reflection of the adventurers and the events that surrounded them. I anxiously await their reply! Asara 03:59, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
Achaea Support says:
"I'd say to use the in-game TYPO system. If they can be corrected by staff, they will be. In some cases, a patron may be made aware so that it can be pointed out to the author."
That was prompt! Thoughts? I'll be doing my giant typo report later today, per the first line of Support's response. I know it's rather an inconclusive response from them, though ... "In some cases"? — Kenner 16:35, 11 April 2008 (GMT)
- Go ahead and follow through with the TYPOs. Unfortunately, some of the TYPOs we've experienced in the past have not passed despite the corrections being grammatically sound. For now, do not correct article document typos unless they are addressed via TYPO too - these IC texts should be a direct reflection of the actual IC material. Asara 19:50, 11 April 2008 (GMT)