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::[[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] wouldn't solve the problem (since "Vertani" isn't a location), though a [[:Category:Vertani]] might. Why wouldn't I assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan? (I ignore the article description because it's not particularly descriptive; as far as it is concerned, all denizens in Tir Murann should then be in this category.) That is the exact convention in all other [[Category:<Place> Denizens]], i.e. denizens who live there, not originated from there. Just look at these articles as examples: [[Lukia DeGage]], [[Bewert]], [[Irilan]], [[Venasia Enverren]], [[Jitaka]], and all other "visiting" denizens and denizens that didn't grow up where they currently live. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 05:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
::[[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] wouldn't solve the problem (since "Vertani" isn't a location), though a [[:Category:Vertani]] might. Why wouldn't I assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan? (I ignore the article description because it's not particularly descriptive; as far as it is concerned, all denizens in Tir Murann should then be in this category.) That is the exact convention in all other [[Category:<Place> Denizens]], i.e. denizens who live there, not originated from there. Just look at these articles as examples: [[Lukia DeGage]], [[Bewert]], [[Irilan]], [[Venasia Enverren]], [[Jitaka]], and all other "visiting" denizens and denizens that didn't grow up where they currently live. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 05:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
:::If we change [[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] to [[:Category:Vertani]], by default we would then have to move all Vertani from Historical Figures and Tir Murann into Vertani Denizens as well. (Which is fine if necessary...) You also may not necessarily assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan for the other possibility I already previously stated. The reason for this is because not all [[Category:<Place> Denizens]] follow this outline as you insist, and unless the article description defines it at such, we cannot assume this is true (like for [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]]). Personally I wouldn't mind conforming them all to a consistent standard, but at the moment I am still not convinced that Kadran and Drafaris fit in Historical Denizens category as I have defined it. If you wish to change the prerequisites for this category, this is another matter entirely. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 20:01, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
:::If we change [[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] to [[:Category:Vertani]], by default we would then have to move all Vertani from Historical Figures and Tir Murann into Vertani Denizens as well. (Which is fine if necessary...) You also may not necessarily assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan for the other possibility I already previously stated. The reason for this is because not all [[Category:<Place> Denizens]] follow this outline as you insist, and unless the article description defines it at such, we cannot assume this is true (like for [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]]). Personally I wouldn't mind conforming them all to a consistent standard, but at the moment I am still not convinced that Kadran and Drafaris fit in Historical Denizens category as I have defined it. If you wish to change the prerequisites for this category, this is another matter entirely. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 20:01, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
::::"'''Historical Figures''' are past figures who were neither [[denizen]] nor [[adventurer]], or '''those denizens or [[:category:creatures|creatures]] lost to history'''." They are lost to history until they prove themselves otherwise; that may happen, but unless you know for sure they'll be making an appearance again, they are only known for their historical roles now. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 21:04, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
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