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:No, "conciseness" does not imply your definition of [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] and I'm not really sure how you arrived at this conclusion. At the moment the category is defined as "Vertani of the Vertan Empire" which does not assume these denizens live IN Vertan in as much that they are FROM, or a member of, Vertan. If you think the category should be re-named to "Vertani Denizens" rather than "Vertan Denizens", perhaps this is more accurate. I also wrote and defined the parameters of Historical Figures which I believe still less aptly define Kadran and Drafaris than them being Vertani Denizens. When I explained the current Vertani listed in Historical Figures as being dead, you extrapolated too far here also in assuming that being dead was the only qualification for -all- historical figures, even though I was speaking only of the Vertani. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 05:06, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
:No, "conciseness" does not imply your definition of [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] and I'm not really sure how you arrived at this conclusion. At the moment the category is defined as "Vertani of the Vertan Empire" which does not assume these denizens live IN Vertan in as much that they are FROM, or a member of, Vertan. If you think the category should be re-named to "Vertani Denizens" rather than "Vertan Denizens", perhaps this is more accurate. I also wrote and defined the parameters of Historical Figures which I believe still less aptly define Kadran and Drafaris than them being Vertani Denizens. When I explained the current Vertani listed in Historical Figures as being dead, you extrapolated too far here also in assuming that being dead was the only qualification for -all- historical figures, even though I was speaking only of the Vertani. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 05:06, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
::[[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] wouldn't solve the problem (since "Vertani" isn't a location), though a [[:Category:Vertani]] might. Why wouldn't I assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan? (I ignore the article description because it's not particularly descriptive; as far as it is concerned, all denizens in Tir Murann should then be in this category.) That is the exact convention in all other [[Category:<Place> Denizens]], i.e. denizens who live there, not originated from there. Just look at these articles as examples: [[Lukia DeGage]], [[Bewert]], [[Irilan]], [[Venasia Enverren]], [[Jitaka]], and all other "visiting" denizens and denizens that didn't grow up where they currently live. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 05:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
::[[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] wouldn't solve the problem (since "Vertani" isn't a location), though a [[:Category:Vertani]] might. Why wouldn't I assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan? (I ignore the article description because it's not particularly descriptive; as far as it is concerned, all denizens in Tir Murann should then be in this category.) That is the exact convention in all other [[Category:<Place> Denizens]], i.e. denizens who live there, not originated from there. Just look at these articles as examples: [[Lukia DeGage]], [[Bewert]], [[Irilan]], [[Venasia Enverren]], [[Jitaka]], and all other "visiting" denizens and denizens that didn't grow up where they currently live. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 05:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)
:::If we change [[:Category:Vertani Denizens]] to [[:Category:Vertani]], by default we would then have to move all Vertani from Historical Figures and Tir Murann into Vertani Denizens as well. (Which is fine if necessary...) You also may not necessarily assume [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] specifically means someone living in Vertan for the other possibility I already previously stated. The reason for this is because not all [[Category:<Place> Denizens]] follow this outline as you insist, and unless the article description defines it at such, we cannot assume this is true (like for [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]]). Personally I wouldn't mind conforming them all to a consistent standard, but at the moment I am still not convinced that Kadran and Drafaris fit in Historical Denizens category as I have defined it. If you wish to change the prerequisites for this category, this is another matter entirely. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 20:01, 20 February 2008 (GMT)