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::::[[:Category:Historical Figures]] is not less concise; it's more accurate and consistent with the majority of Vertani not on Sapience now being in that category. And the more I think about [[:Category:Religion]] for [[Imperial Oracles]], the more it starts to make sense. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 16:32, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
::::[[:Category:Historical Figures]] is not less concise; it's more accurate and consistent with the majority of Vertani not on Sapience now being in that category. And the more I think about [[:Category:Religion]] for [[Imperial Oracles]], the more it starts to make sense. --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 16:32, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
:::::By less concise I meant the dispersal of articles outside a clear category. The difference between Vertani categorized in Vertan Denizens and Historical Figures is that the ones in the former are still alive and the ones in the latter are dead (hence the definition of [[:Category:Historical Figures]]). [[User:Asara|Asara]] 20:04, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
:::::By less concise I meant the dispersal of articles outside a clear category. The difference between Vertani categorized in Vertan Denizens and Historical Figures is that the ones in the former are still alive and the ones in the latter are dead (hence the definition of [[:Category:Historical Figures]]). [[User:Asara|Asara]] 20:04, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
::::::If you're going to assess the "conciseness" of categories that way, then [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] means denizens specifically living in Vertan, and in the case of [[Drafaris]], who was exiled, that may not be an appropriate category for him at all, as his exile was likely from the Vertani community on Vertan. For [[Kadran]], we would also have to check for documentation saying he returned to his homeland. As for [[:Category:Historical Figures]], it is most certainly not limited solely to deceased denizens. Take Cherry and Garian, for example. They are not in an "alive" category anymore because there really is none suitable for them when it seems unlikely at the moment that we will ever see them again. No one really thinks, that after Rurin withdrew his wares, Cherry and Garian were murdered, their bodies hacked into pieces and thrown into a ditch. Likewise, many of the articles in Historical Figures don't even have recorded deaths, and the lack thereof could easily come back and bite us in the tushie, as demonstrated by Himalia; who could've guessed that any Offspring could still be alive today? Therefore, "Historical Figures" is not a category solely for the "confirmed dead", but rather also for anyone from the past who we're unlikely to ever see, or someone from the present who we've seen before but has disappeared and is unlikely to ever be seen again. Frankly, one could go make a [[:Category:Missing Denizens]] if one desired... --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 20:44, 19 February 2008 (GMT)
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