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::::Aye, yet from HELP HUMGII: "Cute little '''''animals''''' with voracious appetites." Personally I'm not sure I see a problem with changing our definition of what Denizens are, unless it be the work involved. Don't a lot of people call pretty much ''everything'' non-adventurer a denizen anyways? ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 17:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | ::::Aye, yet from HELP HUMGII: "Cute little '''''animals''''' with voracious appetites." Personally I'm not sure I see a problem with changing our definition of what Denizens are, unless it be the work involved. Don't a lot of people call pretty much ''everything'' non-adventurer a denizen anyways? ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 17:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Would you rather have Denizens be a subcategory of Creatures? I actually think that might work best. >_> ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 18:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | ::::Would you rather have Denizens be a subcategory of Creatures? I actually think that might work best. >_> ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 18:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::"Animals" does not mutually exclude sentience (sentience can be purchased for pets after all), and you would have to provide explanation for the tells contradiction (I refer to what Krypton provided) to fit your new definition. Similarly, public perception/lingo may not necessarily verify fact (e.g. everyone calling abilities "skills".) However, if you are interested in contesting/changing current established policy, please feel free to make a poll on the forums with these explanations. =) [[User:Asara|Asara]] 19:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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As per the topic on the forums, I'll be reverting these to Category:Denizens again, but I want to hold off until we know whether Humgii should be both Denizen and Domesticated animal. Regardless of how Creatures' and Denizens' articles declare themselves mutually exclusive, I think Humgii are the exception. Just waiting on posts/comments here/there, that way we don't have to do twice as many edits... ~Soludra 04:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, technically speaking, that would open up quite a definitional conundrum... Asara 12:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Howso? I checked, and HELP DENIZENS makes it pretty clear that what we categorize here as creatures are still denizens. Maybe we should subcategorize Creatures under Denizens? ~Soludra 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I disagree. Way back when we originally discussed the difference between denizen and creature, we agreed that HELP DENIZENS did not undermine our description (ours, instead, perhaps clarifies it.). A worm can be a denizen certainly if it accepts tells and speaks, for example. Using sentience as the determining factor is straightfoward, easily verifiable, and seems to work clearly and well. Thus putting Creatures under Denizens would afford a property to beings we've categorized as creatures that is not true. Take a look at the Category:Denizens article for our working definition. Asara 17:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Aye, yet from HELP HUMGII: "Cute little animals with voracious appetites." Personally I'm not sure I see a problem with changing our definition of what Denizens are, unless it be the work involved. Don't a lot of people call pretty much everything non-adventurer a denizen anyways? ~Soludra 17:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Would you rather have Denizens be a subcategory of Creatures? I actually think that might work best. >_> ~Soludra 18:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I disagree. Way back when we originally discussed the difference between denizen and creature, we agreed that HELP DENIZENS did not undermine our description (ours, instead, perhaps clarifies it.). A worm can be a denizen certainly if it accepts tells and speaks, for example. Using sentience as the determining factor is straightfoward, easily verifiable, and seems to work clearly and well. Thus putting Creatures under Denizens would afford a property to beings we've categorized as creatures that is not true. Take a look at the Category:Denizens article for our working definition. Asara 17:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- "Animals" does not mutually exclude sentience (sentience can be purchased for pets after all), and you would have to provide explanation for the tells contradiction (I refer to what Krypton provided) to fit your new definition. Similarly, public perception/lingo may not necessarily verify fact (e.g. everyone calling abilities "skills".) However, if you are interested in contesting/changing current established policy, please feel free to make a poll on the forums with these explanations. =) Asara 19:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Howso? I checked, and HELP DENIZENS makes it pretty clear that what we categorize here as creatures are still denizens. Maybe we should subcategorize Creatures under Denizens? ~Soludra 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)