Difference between revisions of "Category talk:Humgii"

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:Well, technically speaking, that would open up quite a definitional conundrum... [[User:Asara|Asara]] 12:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well, technically speaking, that would open up quite a definitional conundrum... [[User:Asara|Asara]] 12:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::Howso? I checked, and HELP DENIZENS makes it pretty clear that what we categorize here as creatures are still denizens. Maybe we should subcategorize Creatures under Denizens? ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::Howso? I checked, and HELP DENIZENS makes it pretty clear that what we categorize here as creatures are still denizens. Maybe we should subcategorize Creatures under Denizens? ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Unfortunately I disagree. Way back when we originally discussed the difference between denizen and creature, we agreed that HELP DENIZENS did not undermine our description (ours, instead, perhaps clarifies it.). A worm can be a denizen certainly if it accepts tells and speaks, for example. Using sentience as the determining factor is straightfoward, easily verifiable, and seems to work clearly and well. Thus putting Creatures under Denizens would afford a property to beings we've categorized as creatures that is not true. Take a look at the [[:Category:Denizens]] article for our working definition. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 17:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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As per the topic on the forums, I'll be reverting these to Category:Denizens again, but I want to hold off until we know whether Humgii should be both Denizen and Domesticated animal. Regardless of how Creatures' and Denizens' articles declare themselves mutually exclusive, I think Humgii are the exception. Just waiting on posts/comments here/there, that way we don't have to do twice as many edits... ~Soludra 04:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, technically speaking, that would open up quite a definitional conundrum... Asara 12:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Howso? I checked, and HELP DENIZENS makes it pretty clear that what we categorize here as creatures are still denizens. Maybe we should subcategorize Creatures under Denizens? ~Soludra 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately I disagree. Way back when we originally discussed the difference between denizen and creature, we agreed that HELP DENIZENS did not undermine our description (ours, instead, perhaps clarifies it.). A worm can be a denizen certainly if it accepts tells and speaks, for example. Using sentience as the determining factor is straightfoward, easily verifiable, and seems to work clearly and well. Thus putting Creatures under Denizens would afford a property to beings we've categorized as creatures that is not true. Take a look at the Category:Denizens article for our working definition. Asara 17:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)