Talk:Syvelium

Regarding Krypton's comment placed in the Eschaton Experiment talk, I'd say that it is fairly irrelevant here to have the Guardian's house mentioned and rather have the paladin's word link to the Guardian's page to denote the organization. Syvelium never was associated with the House and having it mentioned in this article is a bit confusing. Corvax 06:16, 19 September 2007 (GMT)

Krypton and I had a talk about this a few days ago and I thought similarly that mention of the House was superfluous. However, if I understood you correctly, linking the word "paladin" to the Guardian House page will be erroneous since "paladin" refers to the Guild in this context. Asara 20:44, 19 September 2007 (GMT)

By all means, if you trust people will look up information on guilds for themselves (and I, too, think that they will) when the "guild --> House" explanation is not spoon-fed to them, then all instances of this redundant spoon-feeding can and should be deleted. --Krypton 21:52, 19 September 2007 (GMT)

The Paladin refers to the organization though that became the Guardians, so it's still in context. Its also mentioned on the page, so it covers both the House and the Guild previously.... I also would like to mention I hate the placement of my tilde on my laptop and remember why I try only to edit on my desktop, rotten bastard key. Corvax 22:53, 19 September 2007 (GMT)

You are not alone.. not alone at all. (But why don't you just click the "signature with timestamp" button instead?) --Krypton 23:17, 19 September 2007 (GMT)

.... when did that get there? --Corvax 05:15, 20 September 2007 (GMT)

I'm still a bit confused - the Guild and the House are two different organisations, so it is still my preference that the paladin word be linked to the Guild and not the House, irrespective of the relationship. (Or even better, just leave as is and delete the House phrase.) Asara 12:37, 20 September 2007 (GMT)

They aren't completely different organizations though, one evolved to become the other, the House is still the former Paladins Guild? It's even mentioned within the history of the House article?Corvax 04:25, 21 September 2007 (GMT)

Right, one evolved from the other to a new form where the new form is distinct from the old. A House is not the same as a Guild, hence the different name, classes, government, age of existence, etc. When I say "Paladins Guild", I refer to a distinct organisation during the Age of Guilds with a particular hierarchy during the time of Sarapis, etc., but when I talk about the Guardian House, I am referring to the organisation of the present day that lives in Shallam from Lereas on forward. It has mostly to do with time reference and a distinct "conformation" that makes both unique. It'd be like linking Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. Oh well, semantics I suppose, bleh, no worries. And like you said first thing, Syvelium never associated with the House. Asara 04:58, 21 September 2007 (GMT)