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:::When I've figured out a convincing way to make my case, I will! :D And yes, the very fact that animals may be sentient is what I'm driving at here: Humgii are sentient yet HELP HUMGII calls them animals, two facts we cannot easily discard. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 23:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | :::When I've figured out a convincing way to make my case, I will! :D And yes, the very fact that animals may be sentient is what I'm driving at here: Humgii are sentient yet HELP HUMGII calls them animals, two facts we cannot easily discard. ~[[User:Soludra|Soludra]] 23:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::The fact that humgiis are flagged as sentient is, in and of itself, probably a minor bug (barring cases in which organisational humgiis have progs that might be triggered by tells). They don't say anything on their own, and the default ones actually have signs around their necks to get their point across. On a somewhat related note, dolphins and unicorns are animals and flagged as sentient, but I would not be willing to classify them under [[:Category:Denizen races]]. In fact, you'll note that the [[Unicorns|"Unicorns" article]] is specifically categorised in [[:Category:Creatures]]. Classing all sentient creatures under a "Sentient creatures" category as I originally proposed, whether a "race" or not, would be ideal in my view. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 00:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | ::::The fact that humgiis are flagged as sentient is, in and of itself, probably a minor bug (barring cases in which organisational humgiis have progs that might be triggered by tells). They don't say anything on their own, and the default ones actually have signs around their necks to get their point across. On a somewhat related note, dolphins and unicorns are animals and flagged as sentient, but I would not be willing to classify them under [[:Category:Denizen races]]. In fact, you'll note that the [[Unicorns|"Unicorns" article]] is specifically categorised in [[:Category:Creatures]]. Classing all sentient creatures under a "Sentient creatures" category as I originally proposed, whether a "race" or not, would be ideal in my view. -{{User:Delphinus/sig1}} 00:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:For Soludra: I think that if you really wanted to take a serious crack at the current definition, you'd have to first discuss the matter of sentience before determining the Achaean connotations of "animal" with regards to sentience. I still don't quite see how the -possibility- of animals being sentient, when we know that not all animals are sentient, warrants categorizing all creatures as sentient, i.e. denizens. Under the current understanding, if you wanted to categorize denizens under creatures instead, humgii would still be categorized as denizens according to the "Lowest Common Denominator" category rule. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 00:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
:For Delphinus: What of Maya's acknowledgment of humgii sentience? Also, if some unicorns are flagged as sentient, then that should be reflected by categorizing the unicorns article under denizens as well as creatures with our current policy. Unfortunately you'll also note that the working definition for the Denizen races category is differentiated from others via being "humanoid", so dolphins and unicorns would not be (and are not) classified under such already. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 00:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |