Difference between revisions of "Category talk:Vertan Denizens"

::::::If you're going to assess the "conciseness" of categories that way, then [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] means denizens specifically living in Vertan, and in the case of [[Drafaris]], who was exiled, that may not be an appropriate category for him at all, as his exile was likely from the Vertani community on Vertan. For [[Kadran]], we would also have to check for documentation saying he returned to his homeland. As for [[:Category:Historical Figures]], it is most certainly not limited solely to deceased denizens. Take Cherry and Garian, for example. They are not in an "alive" category anymore because there really is none suitable for them when it seems unlikely at the moment that we will ever see them again. No one really thinks, that after Rurin withdrew his wares, Cherry and Garian were murdered, their bodies hacked into pieces and thrown into a ditch. Likewise, many of the articles in Historical Figures don't even have recorded deaths, and the lack thereof could easily come back and bite us in the tushie, as demonstrated by Himalia; who could've guessed that any Offspring could still be alive today? Therefore, "Historical Figures" is not a category solely for the "confirmed dead", but rather also for anyone from the past who we're unlikely to ever see, or someone from the present who we've seen before but has disappeared and is unlikely to ever be seen again. Frankly, one could go make a [[:Category:Missing Denizens]] if one desired... --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 20:44, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

::::::If you're going to assess the "conciseness" of categories that way, then [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] means denizens specifically living in Vertan, and in the case of [[Drafaris]], who was exiled, that may not be an appropriate category for him at all, as his exile was likely from the Vertani community on Vertan. For [[Kadran]], we would also have to check for documentation saying he returned to his homeland. As for [[:Category:Historical Figures]], it is most certainly not limited solely to deceased denizens. Take Cherry and Garian, for example. They are not in an "alive" category anymore because there really is none suitable for them when it seems unlikely at the moment that we will ever see them again. No one really thinks, that after Rurin withdrew his wares, Cherry and Garian were murdered, their bodies hacked into pieces and thrown into a ditch. Likewise, many of the articles in Historical Figures don't even have recorded deaths, and the lack thereof could easily come back and bite us in the tushie, as demonstrated by Himalia; who could've guessed that any Offspring could still be alive today? Therefore, "Historical Figures" is not a category solely for the "confirmed dead", but rather also for anyone from the past who we're unlikely to ever see, or someone from the present who we've seen before but has disappeared and is unlikely to ever be seen again. Frankly, one could go make a [[:Category:Missing Denizens]] if one desired... --[[User:Krypton|Krypton]] 20:44, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

:No, "conciseness" does not imply your definition of [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] and I'm not really sure how you arrived at this conclusion. At the moment the category is defined as "Vertani of the Vertan Empire" which does not assume these denizens live IN Vertan in as much that they are FROM, or a member of, Vertan. If you think the category should be re-named to "Vertani Denizens" rather than "Vertan Denizens", perhaps this is more accurate. I also wrote and defined the parameters of Historical Figures which I believe still less aptly define Kadran and Drafaris than them being Vertani Denizens. When I explained the current Vertani listed in Historical Figures as being dead, you extrapolated too far here also in assuming that being dead was the only qualification for -all- historical figures, even though I was speaking only of the Vertani. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 05:06, 20 February 2008 (GMT)

:No, "conciseness" does not imply your definition of [[:Category:Vertan Denizens]] and I'm not really sure how you arrived at this conclusion. At the moment the category is defined as "Vertani of the Vertan Empire" which does not assume these denizens live IN Vertan in as much that they are FROM, or a member of, Vertan. If you think the category should be re-named to "Vertani Denizens" rather than "Vertan Denizens", perhaps this is more accurate. I also wrote and defined the parameters of Historical Figures which I believe still less aptly define Kadran and Drafaris than them being Vertani Denizens. When I explained the current Vertani listed in Historical Figures as being dead, you extrapolated too far here also in assuming that being dead was the only qualification for -all- historical figures, even though I was speaking only of the Vertani. [[User:Asara|Asara]] 05:06, 20 February 2008 (GMT)